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Trojan Horse from American Chemical Society: Caveat Emptor - Open ...
8 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
ACS Press Release: "The American Chemical Society's Publications Division now offers an important publishing option in support of the Society's journal authors who wish or need to sponsor open access to their published research articles ...
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Against Squandering Scarce Research Funds on Pre-Emptive Gold OA ...
15 May 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
The biggest retardant on OA progress today is hence a distracting focus on pre-emptive Gold OA (including the conflation of the journal affordability problem with the research accessibility problem, and the conflation of Gold OA with OA .... See: "Gold Fever" and "Trojan Folly." OA Books? The third most important distraction and deterrent to universal Green OA is to conflate OA's primary target -- journal articles, which are all, without exception, in all disciplines, ...
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Yet Another Trojan Horse: "Outsource Your Institutional ...
28 Jun 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
Yet Another Trojan Horse: "Outsource Your Institutional Repositories". If universities were to prove foolish enough to scrap their own Institutional Repositories, renouncing their efforts to reclaim custody of their own research assets ...
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SCOAP3 and the pre-emptive "flip" model for Gold OA conversion ...
23 Jun 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
In sum, the problem is not only that a Rowsean "flip" is profligate and premature at today's asking prices in fields where universal Green OA self-archiving has not yet downsized publishing and its costs to their post-OA essentials. ...
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Premature Rejection Slip - Open Access Archivangelism
16 Oct 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
SUMMARY: Richard Poynder's essay on peer review is thoughtful and stimulating but quite wrong! Peer review is like water-quality control: Everyone shouldn't have to risk doing it all for himself (or relying on those who do it for ...
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Gold Fever and Trojan Folly - Open Access Archivangelism
15 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
JV: "And subject lines like 'Trojan Horse' with their insidious negativity raise the suspicion that the agenda of some list participants is not really 'open access', but a desire to get rid of publishers or of the notion that publishing ...
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Against Squandering Scarce Library Funds on Pre-Emptive Gold OA ...
26 May 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
Against Squandering Scarce Library Funds on Pre-Emptive Gold OA Without First Mandating Green OA. It is beyond my powers of comprehension to fathom why Cornell University would want to throw $50K of scarce library funds at funding Gold ...
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Publisher Proxy Deposit Is A Potential Trojan Horse: I - Open ...
18 Mar 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Publisher Proxy Deposit Is A Potential Trojan Horse: I · Ann Okerson: "If your publishing organization is providing for your authors the service of deposit of their articles according to various mandates, particularly NIH (beginning on ...
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Australian Productivity Commission Report: Trojan Horse-Play ...
27 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
A perfect entry-way for the Trojan Horse of paying the asking price for pre-emptive Gold OA instead of just mandating Green OA. (Doesn't even seem to realize that combining payment with embargoes is adding insult to injury!) ...
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Green OA is no threat to grants: Pre-emptive Gold OA, today, might ...
24 Jan 2007 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
(10) Hence pre-emptive redirection of scarce research funds to pay for Gold is premature and unnecessary today; what is necessary today is the Green mandates for which so many are now petitioning the European community. ...
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The Death of Peer Review? Rumors Premature... - Open Access ...
14 Dec 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
Rumors Premature... (All quotes are from "The death of peer review" by Natasha Gilbert in Research notes, The Guardian, Tuesday December 12, 2006) Guardian: "The chancellor has decided to do away with the age-old, and trusted, ...
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Publisher anti-OA Lobby Triumphs in European Commission - Open ...
13 Jul 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Hear, Hear! Pre-emptive payment for hybrid Gold OA is a Trojan Horse, and funders and institutions would do well to heed Professor Imboden's words. Trojan Horse from American Chemical Society: Caveat Emptor ...
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publisher proxy deposit is a potential trojan horse
18 Mar 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
i suggest not colluding with publishers offering to "let us do the [mandated] deposit for you". the reason is simple, if we take the moment to think it through: (1) the oa movement's goal is to provide open access (oa) to 100% of the ...
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Gold OA Fees, Whether For Submission Or For Publication, Are ...
20 Oct 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Gold OA Fees, Whether For Submission Or For Publication, Are Premature · Submission fees as a potential means of covering peer review costs have been mooted since at least 1999 and much discussed across the years in the American ...
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Double-Paying for Optional Gold OA Instead of Mandating Green OA ...
12 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Double-Paying for Optional Gold OA Instead of Mandating Green OA While Subscriptions Are Still Paying for Publication: Trojan Folly. On Fri, 9 Mar 2007, Leslie Chan wrote: "I see the Howard Hughes Medical Institute HHMI-Elsevier deal ...
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Think Twice Instead of Double-Paying for Open Access - Open Access ...
19 Jul 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Double-Paying for Optional Gold OA Instead of Mandating Green OA While Subscriptions Are Still Paying for Publication: Trojan Folly. Stevan Harnad American Scientist Open Access Forum. Posted by Stevan Harnad in Self-Archiving Mandates ...
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Log Ratios, Effect Size, and a Mandated OA Advantage? - Open ...
7 Jan 2010 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
But we think any explanation at all is premature until it is confirmed that this new mandated OA advantage is indeed reliable and replicable. Phil further singles out the fact that the mandate advantage is present in the middle citation ...
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The 1994 "Subversive Proposal" at 15: A Response - Open Access ...
2 Dec 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
I still think, however, that the proof-of-principle for Gold OA publishing by BMC and PLoS was, on balance, useful, even though premature, because it did serve to allay worries that universal Green OA self-archiving would destroy ...
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Physics World: The CERN Gold OA Initiative - Open Access ...
8 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
This is the winning model that CERN should now be promoting across institutions and disciplines, not a premature, pre-emptive and unnecessary Gold Rush. The time for that is after the rest of the research world has caught up with CERN ...
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On the Wellcome Trust OA Mandate and Central vs. Institutional ...
10 Dec 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
Moreover, the example of pre-emptive payment for Gold OA has inspired another nonstarter, from funders and institutions that are not yet on the side of the angels: They are redirecting scarce research or institutional funds today, ...
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Comment on Richard Poynder's "Mistaking Intent For Action" - Open ...
26 Sep 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
So why are institutions instead wasting their time and money fussing over how to fit the round peg of institutional subscriptions into the square hole of institutional memberships today, via pre-emptive Gold OA funding commitments that ... Unlike today -- when paid Gold OA is at best a useful proof-of-principle that publishing can be sustained without subscriptions and at worst a waste of scarce cash based on a premature and incoherent hope of morphing directly into ...
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On Not Putting The Gold OA-Payment Cart Before The Green OA ...
21 Sep 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
(In addition, the very same scarcity of funds that makes pre-emptive Gold OA payment for journal articles today premature and ineffectual also makes Gold OA payment for monographs unaffordable, because the university funds already ...
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Green OA Self-Archiving Needs a Lobbying Organisation - Open ...
28 Apr 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
One good thing, though: The fact (sub specie aeternitatis) is that (1) - (X), are, respectively, (1) irrelevant, (2) premature, (3) premature, and (X) obsolete, and it is indeed Green OA and Green OA mandates that will win the day and ...
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On Throwing Money At Gold OA Without First Mandating Green OA ...
28 Mar 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
As all of the UK research councils, as well as some of the major UK funding charities, have green mandates in place I don't see how this can possibly be described as 'pre-emptive gold fever'. I'm so glad you said that, David! ...
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Journal Affordability, Research Accessibility, and Open Access ...
14 Jun 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Richard Poynder's essay is hence for the most part correct, yet nevertheless inadvertently fanning the flames -- or perhaps I should say firming the wax -- of inaction in one sector (research accessibility) in favor of pre-emptive, ...
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Cure Gold Fever With Green Deposits - Open Access Archivangelism
28 Apr 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
... growth of OA if it had put its weight and energy behind promoting its own own Green OA policy as a model worldwide, instead of diverting attention and energy to the needless and premature endgame of Gold OA within its own subfields. ...
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An Exchange Regarding Open Access Journals - Open Access ...
2 May 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
(1) OA Journals are a good idea, though a bit premature right now, if the goal is OA: OA can be achieved right now through author self-archiving of articles published in conventional subscription-based journals. ...
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Definitive Answer: II - Open Access Archivangelism
22 May 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
In other words, I think it is both unnecessary and counterproductive for individual authors (or Institutional Repository managers) to assume the pre-emptive burden of trying to sort out the double-talk that the publisher posts, ...
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Gold and Green Keynotes at IATUL 2007 - Open Access Archivangelism
11 Jun 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
It would have been much more helpful if CERN had put its prestige and efforts behind promoting Green OA and Green OA mandates rather than this unnecessary pre-emptive conversion from Green OA to Gold OA. .... My hunch is that this is something of a Trojan Horse even for Particle Physics, and even for the goal of saving money, because it will lock in prices in an artificial way, instead of letting Green OA drive cancellations and cost-cutting, if and when it is ever ...
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Cliff Lynch on Open Access - Open Access Archivangelism
12 Jan 2007 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
The remedy for that "partial coverage" is not to keep waiting for (and/or to pay the pre-emptive asking price of) journal-by-journal Gold OA, but to mandate Green OA right now, so we can reach 100% OA at long last. ...
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Plugging the Loopholes in the Proposed FRPAA, RCUK and EU Self ...
27 May 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
There is no other current solution: only the endless pre-emptive debating about what the publisher would/should/could require and what the author would/should/could do -- in other words, the effective pre-emptive "embargo" on the very ...
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OA McMemberships, Dismemberment and MC Escher - Open Access ...
27 Nov 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
The reality is that (Gold) OA publishing is premature today, except as a proof of principle. What is needed first is for universal (Green) OA self-archiving mandates to be adopted by institutions and funders. That will provide universal ...
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Comparing OA/non-OA in Developing Countries - Open Access ...
14 Jan 2009 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Davis's eagerness to pronounce that there is "No Benefit for Poor Scientists" based on one study is highly premature. If there should be a study showing that people in developing countries prefer imported bottled water over local ...
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OA's Continuing Misadventures: Columbia the 4th to Buy Pyrite ...
10 Nov 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
Ironically, I'll have to leave it to Phil Davis (of the Society for Scholarly Publishing's "Scholarly Kitchen") to flesh out the futility and fatuity of this latest outbreak of pre-emptive gold fever. ...
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publisher anti-oa lobby triumphs in european commission
13 Jul 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
hear, hear! pre-emptive payment for hybrid gold oa is a trojan horse, and funders and institutions would do well to heed professor imboden's words. trojan horse from american chemical society: caveat emptor ...
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against squandering scarce research funds on pre-emptive gold oa ...
15 May 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
see: "gold fever" and "trojan folly." oa books? the third most important distraction and deterrent to universal green oa is to conflate oa's primary target -- journal articles, which are all, without exception, in all disciplines, ...
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the "double-pay"/"buy-back" argument for open access is invalid
9 Sep 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
i am referring to the "trojan horse" of paying an extra fee to a "hybrid gold oa" publisher (ie, not a pure gold oa publisher but a subscription-based publisher who offers the option of making individual articles oa in exchange for a ...
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aaas (green), nature (pale-green), acs (gray)
23 Oct 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
in the case of acs, however, which has begun to "experiment" with the trojan horse of "authorchoice," it has become the only gray publisher, as far as i know, to have the temerity to ask its authors to pay extra for the right to ...
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Conflating Open Access With Copyright Reform: Not Helpful to Open ...
29 Jul 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
(3) Why Pay Pre-Emptive Gold OA Fees? Gold OA publishing fees are certainly a deterrent today. But no publishing fees need be paid for Green OA while institutional subscriptions are still paying the costs of journal publishing. ...
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mobilising scholarly society membership support for frpaa and ec a1
30 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
trojan horse from american chemical society: caveat emptor not a proud day in the annals of the royal society open letter from fellows of the royal society a real tragedy. the memberships have to be very clearly informed of this, ...
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Open Access Benefits for the Developed and Developing World: The ...
19 Feb 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
a recent flawed study (Frandsen 2009) that reported that there was no such effect (as well as a premature response hailing it as "Open Access: No Benefit for Poor Scientists"). E & R found the following. (Their main finding is number ...
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should a viable journal convert to green or to gold today?
16 May 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
going hybrid gold via (2b) would essentially be to make a gratuitous extra author charge for self-archiving; while continuing to sell the hard copy edition for subscriptions this would be a highly retrogressive step -- indeed, a trojan ...
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OA Primer for the Perplexed: I - Open Access Archivangelism
25 May 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Pre-emptive insistence on OA2 to data (or articles) is inimical to achieving consensus and compliance on mandating OA1 to articles. Achieving OA1 to articles will certainly facilitate going on to achieve OA1 and OA2 to data as well as ...
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Gold Conversion: A Prisoners' Dilemma? - Open Access Archivangelism
7 Oct 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
... instead help get us bogged down, yet again, in passive, pre-emptive speculation rather than practical action -- I too expect and welcome an eventual transition to Gold OA journal publishing, and have done so from the very beginning. ...
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Conflicts of Interest in Open Access - Open Access Archivangelism
1 May 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
Could it be that the publisher-budget defenders and the library-budget defenders are making common cause with pre-emptive Gold OA, at the expense of cost-free Green OA and the interests of the research community and research itself? ...
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Impressions from Brussels EC Meeting - Open Access Archivangelism
17 Feb 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
I think the concern is warranted: that it is indeed premature to push toward gold OA when most fields [including many parts of physics] don't yet have green OA. CERN should work to generalise its own admirable and successful green OA ...
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filibusters flourish: yet another oa "study" commissioned by ...
20 Sep 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
the biosciences federation's statement is familiar, old, many times rebutted stuff, and another trojan horse. it's of course not at all about promoting green oa self-archiving, or green oa self-archiving mandates, but about continuing ...
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Royal Society: III - Open Access Archivangelism
14 Dec 2005 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
... despite all the negative evidence from physics, is the RCUK policy not the way to test that very hypothesis, if one is truly seeking objective evidence rather than simply seeking to draw pre-emptive conclusions from dire conjectures ...
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Open Access First; Then, Only If/When Necessary: Open Access ...
21 Jun 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
But conversion to OA publishing is not urgent, indeed it is premature, while funds are already tied up in subscriptions. What needs to be done now is for researchers, funders and institutions to mandate OA self-archiving -- i.e., ...
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Asymptotic Costs of Gold Open Access Journal Publication - Open ...
3 May 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Publishing in OA journals in order to provide OA to one's research output, is nonoptimal and premature today because: (1) Most journals (90%) are still subscription-based journals today. (2) Hence institutions' potential publication ...
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think twice instead of double-paying for open access
19 Jul 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
double-paying for optional gold oa instead of mandating green oa while subscriptions are still paying for publication: trojan folly. stevan harnad american scientist open access forum.
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Testing the Royal Society's Assumptions about Open Access - Open ...
25 Jun 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
The rest is all pre-emptive speculation in place of objective testing and evidence (and rather self-serving speculation at that, aimed at pre-setting arbitrarily what should really be for the market to decide: whether anything else ...
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First Things First: OA Self-Archiving, Then Maybe OA Publishing ...
3 Nov 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
I agree that author charges today are premature. CA: "Indeed, how do we justify author charges of USD 1000, 2000 or even 3000 per article when there is positive proof that open access to research articles may be had for USD 1, ...
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Critique of EPS/RIN/RCUK/DTI "Evidence-Based Analysis of Data ...
8 Oct 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
(And it would be exceedingly self-defeating of the research community to even consider accepting such a pre-emptive suggestion as a precondition, before adopting self-archiving mandates.) There is some consistency in results that show ...
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The Geeks and the Irrational - Open Access Archivangelism
3 Sep 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
See: "Open Choice is a Trojan Horse for Open Access Mandates" (Jun 2006) http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/subject.html#5444. On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Jan Velterop [ JV ], Springer UK wrote: ...
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Open Access Now: On the Virtues of Not Over-Reaching, Needlessly ...
19 Mar 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
And that's why I was so obtuse about the original BOAI definition of OA: Because although it was premature to talk about paper re-publication rights, those would obviously come with the OA territory, eventually; so (I must have mused, ...
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Harvard's Stuart Shieber on Open Access at CalTech and Berkeley ...
17 Apr 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
So this, it seems to me, is yet another reason for not putting the accent on a pre-emptive "compact" to cover "reasonable" gold OA publication fees today, in the absence of universal OA mandates. I hasten to add that Harvard, ...
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Harvard's OA Policy and the Hybrid Copyright Retention and Deposit ...
22 Feb 2008 by (Stevan Harnad)  
Hence the pre-emptive strategy for Harvard's proposed CMo mandate, to avoid the needless extra risk during the three-year trial period, would be to upgrade to CMo+DMn from the outset.) Peter Suber: By contrast, ...
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University of California: Throwing Money At Gold OA Without ...
8 Mar 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
If UC does go ahead and mandates Green OA, then all my objections are immediately mooted, because although these additional publisher deals are still incoherent, premature, unscalable and unsustainable, they no longer matter. ...
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Critique of American Association of Publishers' Critique of FRPAA ...
10 Jun 2006 by harnad@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Stevan Harnad)  
As the NIH's implementation of the policy has not yet progressed to the point where its impact can be assessed, publishers view the introduction of the Cornyn-Lieberman proposal as premature." (1) The NIH policy can be and has been ...
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Waking OA's Slumbering Giant: Why Locus-of-Deposit Matters for ...
7 Feb 2009 by nospam@example.com (Stevan Harnad)  
In the current status quo, when only a tiny proportion of funders is mandating deposit at all, and an even tinier proportion of institutions is doing so, this advice is perhaps a tad premature... for existing IR content. ...
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On "Open Access" Publishers Who Oppose Open Access Self-Archiving ...
3 Mar 2007 by (Stevan Harnad)  
The objection is to any further delay in mandating Green OA, wasting still more time instead on continued bickering about paying pre-emptive Gold publishing fees. Let research funders and institutions mandate OA Green self-archiving, ...
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